2010-11-23 [Duredhel]: It would depend on the distribution of that 20%. *Sigh* When will people learn about 'me!' characters? :/

And Crimson, I wasn't referring to you or your character, or even characters in this RP, I meant RP characters in general. In any case, my main gripe was the states, mebbe it's just rule-based player OCD. I like the fact that Grizzly tried to set some RPG stats up there because its an attempt to give a modicum of balance to a character. But I wish he'd put up some actual rolled stats and worked his character within those if he wanted stats up, instead of just a bunch of 16+

2010-11-23 [MechianRed]: Dude I know. I should've put a :p by my statements. Also I don't think he was aiming for a me char. Just some interesting health stats to give his char an edge

2010-11-23 [MechianRed]: Actually I do agree with you on the rolled stats part. Except for strength for obvious reasons. On the other hand he could roll a d100 for strength

2010-11-23 [Flisky]: I find this humorous. Why are all the new characters 18 years or older?

2010-11-23 [Duredhel]: Sex :O

2010-11-23 [Flisky]: *gasp*

2010-11-23 [Figgy]: Because that's how old the players want them to be..?

2010-11-23 [MechianRed]: rofl, not to mention that the last two (mine and emeralds) are over 6 foot tall.

2010-11-23 [Flisky]: Plus the new guys all seem to be so...buff...strength seems high on the list of importance. It's just...meh.

2010-11-23 [MechianRed]: Hey now Gabriel isn't buff yes Lucien is but then his power is strength. Um buff means a like a body builder right?

2010-11-23 [Flisky]: I meant buff like overly strong. (Gabriel is sort of overly strong. He can punch through walls, can't he?)

2010-11-23 [Duredhel]: I like my character physically weak ;3.
Love to think of strategy beyond "I smash! :O!"

2010-11-23 [MechianRed]: He can but because of his power the idea being the energy is pushing the wall not that he is physically punching through. Though the force he puts he puts into the punch helps. Any ways I thought you were referring to looks sorry.

2010-11-23 [MechianRed]: But simple strategy's are easy on the brain

2010-11-23 [Flisky]: I know what you mean Dur. Physically, neither of my charries can do crap. (Except Addy being agile as a snake.)

2010-11-24 [EmeraldGrizzly]: Note: The following stats are what I rolled just now with 4d6 Str=40(super reasons, but rolled an 18), Dex=16, Con=16, Int=10, Wis=17, Cha=14, & App=18

Now, when I make a character (any character) I always incorporate parts of myself into them whether they be events, physical markers, or personality traits. By your definition Duredhel, all of my characters are me characters. I like beauty, I appreciate the body in all it's forms, hence I made a physically attractive character. The stats above are rolled per you suggestion and I wonder MissFiggy if they are more to your liking considering we are not playing D&D I didn't know if they mattered or not, however since Duredhel mentioned such (and I only put them there to better explain Crusher to people who happen to RP in games like D&D) I didn't know if they were necessary.

Oh, and Duredhel, I am most defiantly NOT deformed. The 1/5 falls to inner thickness of the bone from what I understand. It's as if the inside of my skull was "extruded". I chose my medical history (minus a hip operation) because whenever people like to learn about me; I tell them that "laundry list" and am usually asked "Are you some kind of mutant?" :)

Savy?

2010-11-24 [MechianRed]: wow emgrizz is Jack sparrow...

2010-11-24 [EmeraldGrizzly]: You wish! I wouldn't be buff then! LMAO

2010-11-24 [Duredhel]: Uhm.. I'm generally against incorporating parts of the player into the character, specially parts that are very specific to said player, it blurs the line between the character and the player and players end up taking affronts to their characters personally (whether they like to admit it or not, I've GMed upwards of 100 people in the last 10 years and found that to be a bit of a universal truth, and as GM, people who do it overtly tend to trigger a red flag). The general rule I've found (not true every time, just most) is that the best players have the characters that stand further apart from themselves.

Now, EVERYONE becomes invested and lives vicariously through their character to a small degree, and there can be common grounds between a character and a player, but the more specific these things are, the worse the investing gets. The stats, as I said before, are not necessary, but IF you're gonna have them, best to have them done right.

2010-11-24 [EmeraldGrizzly]: So, to want to live an experience through your character is wrong in your eyes then is it Duredhel? I've found it to be quite freeing. My DMing of 40+ people in the last 8 years has shown me that it helps people through the day; you know, forgetting or in some cases fighting though personal issues (such as myself). I'll admit it here and now that D&D has saved my life (as corny as that sounds). Personally, a character that hasn't a quite a bit of you in it seems to me to be lack luster at best. Typically I play Half-Orcs, Half-Orges, Half-Dragons, or large humans with a chip on their shoulder who are defiantly misunderstood. Seldom do I deviate from this path for I find it freeing... to live safely in a successful RP than try it for real. Of course I am my characters and my characters are me, that's why I play them. I don't want to give a lack luster performance, I do what I know. Now, yes, as a Lv. 3 DM out of 5 Lv.s I can easily play something else, but it comes down to that defining factor... something we must all face when investing in something like this expansive RP...

enjoyment.

The original stats were my best attempt at properly gauging the character. Whether we like it or not, there are some characters out there in the fantasy world that are 'epic' to begin with. Their low scores are 14's and 16's. True, they usually lack resources or have a major defining negative trait, but they exist. Why is it that I am wrong to emulate that rarity?

As well, these are super mutants, not average humans. Any stat above 15 is a hero stat in D&D. Average humans only have 10-11. At 20 and lower isn't god-like, it's simply "Super Hero." 40 is epic, however isn't that his point? Super Strength? If we are to be akin to the likes of Wolverine, Phoenix, Xavier and the like, we have to start somewhere... right?

2010-11-24 [EmeraldGrizzly]: Gary Gygax along with the other creators of D&D stated that a 20 strength is modern day body builders. So where do super heroes fall in at?

You can look that up by the way ;)